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Getting Smart Podcast

Mar 31, 2021

In this week’s episode, Tom is sitting down once again with special guest, Pavel Luksha.

Pavel Luksha is a leading education futurist. He’s a Professor of Practice at Moscow School of Management SKOLKOVO, the Director and founder of Global Education Futures, and serves on the advisory board for Whittle School and Studios. What drives Pavel forward is creating a world that works for everyone. He’s a global thinker and change catalyst focused on creating the discipline of social ecosystem gardening.

Recently, Pavel contributed to a new future of skills report that is one of the best that the Getting Smart team has seen on the subject! The report was a collaboration between Global Education Future, WorldSkills Russia, and WorldSkills International and is titled, “Future Skills for the 2020s: A New Hope.” It summarizes interviews that Pavel conducted with leaders and experts all over the world and focuses on the three overarching skills that are needed to build a thriving future for all. These skills are: 1) Collaborate, adapt, and transform 2) Embrace future-orientations and technological tools, and 3) Embody well-being of people and planet as our primary purpose.

Listen in as Tom and Pavel discuss what learners need to know and why we live in a VUCA place. If you’re working on a new portrait of a graduate (or a graduate profile) and are thinking about the skills that your learners will need in the 2020s, this is a must-listen-to episode!


Key Takeaways:

[:10] About today’s episode with Pavel Luksha.

[:45] Tom welcomes Pavel back to the Getting Smart Podcast!

[1:42] As a world traveler, how has the last year been for Pavel without any international travel?

[2:52] How were GEF, WorldSkills, and Pavel able to conduct this study during a global pandemic?

[4:05] Pavel talks about the volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous (VUCA) world and how 2020 gave people the experience of a pandemic, one of the aspects of the VUCA world.

[4:47] Tom outlines the three overarching skills that the report covers and Pavel speaks about the first of the three, “Collaborate, adapt, and transform,” and why it is so critical.

[8:25] Pavel speaks about the increasing mutuality towards embracing well-being, as well as some of the counter-trends that they are seeing during the pandemic.

[10:52] Pavel shares about the megatrends in the report that are transforming the nature of the global economy: Digitalization, Globalization, and Environmentalization.

[15:03] Pavel elaborates on this idea of life-centered, transformative, regenerative, and circular economies — and why experts see this as a likely scenario.

[17:00] Pavel gives advice to education leaders and highlights the factors that they should be thinking about in the 2020s.

[20:05] Pavel elaborates on how education leaders should lean into artificial intelligence, big data, and exponential technologies.

[22:12] Why Tom loves “Future Skills for the 2020s” report.

[23:12] Pavel shares why they went sector-by-sector in the report.

[24:12] Pavel has also released an in-depth report on learning ecosystems titled, “Learning Ecosystems: An Emerging Praxis for the Future of Education.” Pavel elaborates on what a learning ecosystem is and why they are worth studying.

[30:38] Pavel provides some examples of what a healthy learning ecosystem looks like.

[34:30] How does Pavel keep productive and stay focused on his learning even in the midst of a global pandemic?

[36:46] Tom thanks Pavel for joining the podcast once again!


Mentioned in This Episode:

Pavel Luksha (LinkedIn)

Getting Smart Podcast Ep. 223: “Pavel Luksha on Educating for Purpose, Potential, and the Planet

Moscow School of Management SKOLKOVO

Future Skills for the 2020s,” Report by GEF, WorldSkills Russia, and WorldSkills International

Global Education Futures

WorldSkills Russia

WorldSkills International

Learning Ecosystems: An Emerging Praxis for the Future of Education,” Report by GEF and Moscow School of Management SKOLKOVO

Dream a Dream


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